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    830 KB Monation !qOam24VXBw 02/26/10(Fri)10:19 No.45439  
    How the fuck did this turd get a Daily Deviation.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)10:20 No.45440
    Well, there's your problem.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)10:36 No.45443
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)10:36 No.45445
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    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)10:41 No.45449
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    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)10:43 No.45452
    >Group: Den of the Troll
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)10:45 No.45455
    Nice catch
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)10:45 No.45456
    At least it looks good, compared to the people's work here who complain about topology all the time.

    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)11:02 No.45464
    A Daily Deviation isn't hard to get, and you don't have to be talented to get one.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)11:02 No.45465
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    >At least it looks good
    >giving them credit for modeling they didn't do, they just posed it

    Not sure if trolling
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)11:02 No.45466
    We are tired of your spam and bullshit at www. åNÒñtãIk .com. Stop fucking with us. You owe Sysop over $10,000 USD due to your harassments. Pay up by donating.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)11:06 No.45469
    I'm not sure if that is OP's only problem.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)11:13 No.45472
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)11:16 No.45473
    What? My point was it looks good compared to other people's work on here which is true, therefore the technicality of modeling does not matter with this.

    I'm sure you're one of those pseudo-intellectuals who sit there and thinks you need to have to know everything from topology to whatever in 3d modeling in order to get a 3d modeling job whether it be in the game industry or whatnot. Wrong buddy wrong.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)11:19 No.45474
    Now I'm sure
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)11:20 No.45475
    That you're underage?

    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)11:25 No.45479
    >implying professional modellers use Poser.

    Also, I left dA when that faggot spyed fucked jark over. Alien > Ninja.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)11:29 No.45482
    Actually professional artists DO use Poser. And they make more money than the average designer at, lets say Bethesda Entertainment or Microsoft Studios. I work with someone who used Poser in a previous job, her work looks as if she isn't even using Poser as well and she makes a good living by herself, hey a lot like you right? Living by yourself although she doesn't live in a garage.

    You should go experience things and network with other people before you judge the outside world child. You'll learn some interesting things.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)11:35 No.45486
    >world child

    We already had the discussion the other day about how big a fag you look like when you say "kid" and so on

    >I think it's a good idea to put Poser on a resume

    There was another thread where someone posted an anecdote about how his company had a Wall of Shame where they put resumes like that
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)11:36 No.45487
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    Problem, /3/?
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)11:41 No.45491
    That's just specific companies, every company is different. Something you "KIDS" to fail at understanding. No I wasn't present for this argument but I think it makes you look like a bigger faggot when you think defending /3/ is any better than defending DA, which in this case I'm not really defending anything I'm telling you my personal experiences, and this girl I work with had Poser on her resume, like I said she makes a good living of course not with just CG and drawing, which is another thing you "KIDS" think will be stable for a career just to work in 3d modeling.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)11:48 No.45494
    I hope you get a banhammer straight up the rectum
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)11:48 No.45495
    I think 3d is a hobby and I highly doubt i will ever make a living out of it. You fail at trying to be a smartass.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)11:51 No.45497
    Jesus christ you're pathetic.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)11:53 No.45498

    I don't think being able to hold a real job is being pathetic, I think building up a posse on a board to comment everything I say is pathetic
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)11:54 No.45500
    You can make a living out of it and you can't, it goes both ways it depends on how you approach it yourself, something you will learn when you hit 18 hopefully.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)11:57 No.45501
    Again, fail. I'm older than 18.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)11:58 No.45502
    The troll. Stop feeding it
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)12:01 No.45504
    Wait so you guys actually understand what I'm saying and just pretending to be socially awkward teenagers? Aight I feel bettah yo.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)12:08 No.45505
    >implying he knows better than anyone else
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)12:09 No.45507

    Nope but I know what I know, and what I told you was what I know out of my own experiences, which no one grasped.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)12:38 No.45537
    Anybody who uses poser as anything other than a faptool does not have the right to call himself an artist.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)12:49 No.45542
    ....This is an amature forum for 3D MODELING, NOT ANIMATION. Poser is only used for posing and that's it. Dead Fantasy proves that.

    If that fag made both the modeling, rigging, shading and rendering by himself, then that fine. But he fucking didn't, and thus doesn't deserve Daily Deviation.

    Also note that Deviantart, like ALL the website designed for user to post their artistic output, became a dumping grounds for Fags.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)12:53 No.45546
    The fuck, 3DCG is for all aspects of the production of 3DCG images.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)12:54 No.45548

    How 'bout going back and reading the rules of this particular board again, mmkay?
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)12:55 No.45550
    Sorry, what I meant was that this is for ALL Aspects of 3D modeling and rendering. Animation can only applied if you done BOTH!!
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)12:58 No.45552
    Where are you getting the idea that you can't use other people's props and still be /3/ related? Or is it only okay when it's a dorf?
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)13:00 No.45555
    only for practice.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)13:01 No.45556
    So I can't import a Poser model into Blender, rig it entirely myself, and teach the fucker Tai Chi, and take *any* credit for it? Seriously, there's more to 3D art than the actual modelling. I personally don't use Poser, and I scoff at those that simply whip out a model and slap on some default clothes and render them in a grey box. But just because you use a Poser model, doesn't mean you didn't make the clothes and the textures and the maps and the rigging and the animation.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)13:02 No.45558
    That seems like an odd requirement, given that in the actual workforce people commonly split the work of creating a single production by having one person model, another texture, another animate...
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)13:03 No.45559
    That too. Actually, what's OP's problem with this picture.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)13:06 No.45563
    I don't think people on here understand what the workforce is, since I just argued about it for over 30 mins and I just got bashed with whatever I said, trying to help with my own experiences.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)13:22 No.45570

    He hates the pic because it's made from lolPoser.

    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)13:24 No.45572

    So we should hang a paint-by-numbers next to fine art then? Or how about Gundam models next to famous sculptures?

    You have no taste plebeian.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)13:25 No.45573

    And you have no eye for art.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)13:58 No.45584
    I've definitely seen shit like that fly at museums of Modern Art.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:01 No.45586
    And you do? OP's image is AWFUL.

    First off, it's so horribly cluttered I just can barely look at it, never mind see a clear focus or identify a composition. I guess we're meant to focus on hers and the creature's faces, but every part of the image draws the eye just as much, especially the cluttered background.

    There are lots of shitty-looking materials (the fruit, the flowers, the WATER LOL, her top)

    The creature design is horrendous. Its face barely reads. Never mind trying to figure out its fucking body. It could just be a disembodied head and she's actually laying on a pile of rocks for all I can see.

    The lighting is terrible. Where's the primary light source? Shadows? It sure as fuck doesn't look like she's under a canopy of palm trees.

    The tree give no sense of depth. And as noted before, they're too dominant, and distract from the foreground.

    Pretty much anything that isn't probably straight out of Poser in this (the human woman) looks horrible.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:03 No.45588
    And over all, it looks like any random piece of 3D art from the 90s.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:05 No.45590
    Personally, my eyes go straight to the skirt, which is actually pretty good looking.

    The rest is pretty cluttered and doesn't look so great, I agree.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:07 No.45592
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    I don't think you remember what 3d art looked like in the 90's. Pic related was MINDBLOWING.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:07 No.45593
    Yeah, that too, I just figured he might try to say that's the point as the focus of the image is her sexy legs or some similar bullshit.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:11 No.45596
    You've probably never seem real women wear those dress shirts before, the texture is exactly like that, as well as for the fruit, look at an apple or banana one day, stop eating your salty Chipolte college food shit. Also if every creature was supposed to have a certain anatomy in every piece of art you see, then I might as well not go to shows anymore.

    another thing is

    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:11 No.45597
    So, it could be a whole lot better than it is now.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:15 No.45601
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    Improved composition, courtesy of the Crop Tool.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:16 No.45603

    >things look semi-realistic so it must be good art!

    Jesus you are an unintelligent faggot. Piddling around in blender doesn't teach you art. Go take some classes and come back when you understand something.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:17 No.45604
    i find the stance on Poser here to be somewhat retarded, because whenever someone starts a "What's better Max or Maya" thread, they get bashed with "It's not the tools, it's the artist" type comments. But when it comes to Poser, suddenly it's not the artist, it's the tools. Make up your minds already.

    my point is, a real artist can make art out of anything. any tool or material, if you are truly artistic, you can make something interesting from it.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:21 No.45608
    None of the girls I've ever known have ever worn foil.

    The fruit I eat does not look like plastic.

    My complaint with the creature is not that it doesn't have human anatomy, it's that I literally cannot tell where or what its anatomy is. Yes, it's mostly underwater, but I should be able to at least figure out where its chest, belly, shoulers, arms etc are. But none of it looks like anything. Like I said, pile of rocks.

    You failed to defend the rest of it so you're admitting that every other aspect I commented on up there is shit? Even if these details worked, the fact that the image as a whole is so cluttered and unreadable is damning.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:21 No.45609
    LOL unintelligent? Alright I don't care if you attack my intelligence because my ego isn't as huge as yours but dude, remember this is a fantasy piece, fantasy is generally exaggerated. You want fantastic realism? join the army at I'm tired of people complaining about realism in the entertainment industry, as real as you can model it will not be as real as you can touch. Something you learn without being in classes my friend.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:21 No.45610

    That's the point. He didn't make anything. Just downloaded props and assembled them in a scene. There's nothing wrong with assemblage art or building composition from things you didn't make but it's has no sense of composition or balance.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:26 No.45612

    Oh here we go with "ITS MY STYLE!" and "ITS NOT REAL SO IT'S OKAY FOR IT TO BE SHITTY"

    I'm not the one who brought up realism, it was the faggot fawning over how real the skirt looked compared to the women he seen wearing them irl.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:27 No.45614

    Okay the shirt looks like foil to you

    The apples look like plastic and too unrealisitc for you


    >calling a fantasy scene too unrealistic
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:28 No.45618
    ITT: fags not realizing this is a matte painting.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:28 No.45619

    No of course it can still be shit if it's "MY OWN STYLE" but this piece compared to other people's work on /3/ is a lot better. Sorry but it's true.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:29 No.45620
    It's two different conversations, dumbass. The Maya vs. Max is about wich app gives you more funcionality to create things. Poser is not to create things, it's to fiddle with already created things.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:31 No.45623
    So is there proof that he didn't made any of this shit?
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:33 No.45625
    You still have to have a creative mind to use Poser, it's still a canvas for endless abilities to your creative skills, just in another way which makes it different from all the other software.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:35 No.45627
    AKA, it's an animator, not a composer.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:46 No.45637

    Looks like an image still to me. I don't think .jpg = animation.


    Absolutely agree, too bad the person who made this didn't have a creative mind.


    So your argument is a ad hominem for everyone on /3/? Why are you white knighting this piece to such an extent? I'm sure its a lot better than what a five year old could do but that doesn't really mean anything does it?
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:52 No.45642
    >>Looks like an image still to me. I don't think .jpg = animation.
    Pose, Rigging, have alot to do with animation.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)14:59 No.45652

    Posing and rigging is posing and rigging. They alone do not make animation. Stop white knighting so hard.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)15:08 No.45655
    >this piece compared to other people's work on /3/ is a lot better.

    You are an humongous faggot and have absolutely no place talking about art in any sense. Go choke on a wall of dicks, faggot.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)15:13 No.45657
    >Implying DeviantArt has quality
    I just use that place as a hosting site for my artistic progress, and you should do the same.
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)15:15 No.45658
    20% art
    55% poser porn
    15% scene fag "poems"
    10% traced art
    >> Anonymous 02/26/10(Fri)15:29 No.45674
    I don't get people who hate dA. There is quality work on that site, you just need to find it amongst the piles of shit.And frankly if you go to dA to look at other people's work then you're doing it wrong.It's just a decent place to get exposure and make some pocket money on commissions, and even score a good job on the job forum every once in a while.

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